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We Have GOT To Stop Playing Defense In This War!
Font in BOLD is my opinion throughout article
Washington Post
Karzai Condemns Alleged Body Desecration
By AMIR SHAH
The Associated Press
Friday, October 21, 2005; 8:28 AM
KABUL, Afghanistan — President Hamid Karzai on Friday condemned the alleged desecration of the bodies of two dead Taliban fighters by U.S. troops, but he said mistakes happen in war and Afghans shouldn’t let it mar their impression of the United States. Condemned???? did he condemn the attacks on the USS Cole, 9-11-Beriut and other attacks by Muslims on the US?
His apparent attempt to reduce Afghans’ anger over the incident came amid warnings by Islamic clerics of a possible violent anti-American backlash.
Where was the Afghans anger at those that committed war on 9-11 and all the other attacks on Americans throughout the world!
“Sometimes things happen in these sort of operations, during war. Soldiers make mistakes,” he told reporters in Kabul. “We are very grateful for the international community’s assistance. … Their soldiers have shed their blood in our country.”
But he added, “We in Afghanistan in accordance with our religion … are very unhappy and condemn the burning of the two Taliban dead bodies. I hope such incidents will not occur again.”
Karzai on Thursday ordered an inquiry into television video that purportedly shows U.S. soldiers burning the bodies of the two dead Taliban fighters to taunt other militants. The U.S. military also launched an investigation.
The U.S. military declared the alleged abuse “repugnant” and vowed to investigate, while the State Department directed U.S. embassies to say such actions don’t reflect American values.
Australia’s SBS television network broadcast the video purportedly showing soldiers burning the bodies of two suspected Taliban fighters in hills outside Gonbaz village in the southern Shah Wali Kot district _ an area plagued by Taliban activity and considered by the local security forces as too dangerous to venture into unless accompanied by U.S. troops.
Viewers of the video saw a group of about five troops in light-colored military fatigues, which did not have any distinguishing marks, standing near to a bonfire in which two bodies were laid side by side. The flames obscured the view of the bodies, making it impossible to tell if the remains were of Taliban fighters.
The network said the video was taken by a freelance journalist, Stephen Dupont. Dupont, who told The Associated Press that he was embedded with the Army’s 173rd Airborne Brigade, said the burnings happened Oct.1st.
Cremating bodies is banned under Islam, and one Muslim leader in Afghanistan compared the video to photographs of U.S. troops abusing prisoners at Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison.
“Abu Ghraib ruined the reputation of the Americans in Iraq and to me this is even worse,” Faiz Mohammed told The Associated Press from northern Kunduz province. “This is against Islam. Afghans will be shocked by this news. It is so humiliating. There will be very, very dangerous consequences from this.”
Threats? Threats ?? HEY! Show me where this Faiz Mohammed made threats to the Taliban after 9-11 !
A cleric in Kabul, Said Mohammed Omar, said, “The burnings of these bodies is an offense against Muslims everywhere. Bodies are only burned in hell.”
Video of the alleged act has not been broadcast yet in Afghanistan and though the local media has reported on it, many people were still not aware of it. There have been no demonstrations such as the anti-American protests in May that turned violent and killed 15 people over a report _ later retracted _ that U.S. soldiers at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility desecrated Islam’s holy book, the Quran.
Wild Thing’s Comments continued in bold….
This is regarding the trashing of the vile Quran….
-Not one of these illegal enemy combatant detainee’s
who came from Afghanistan had a Qur’an in his
possession when captured
-A brand new Qur’an in the specific, native language
of each individual was provided to each “enemy combatant”.
-Each illegal enemy combatant detained at Guantanamo is
given three nutritious halal meals (culturally-appropriate and
in accordance with Islamic dietary law) per day. The meals
include all optional condiments.
-Each illegal enemy combatant detainee receives Muslim feast
meals at special times in accordance with Muslim feasts and holy
periods during the year.
-Each illegal enemy combatant detainee has unrestricted access
to Muslim Imams and religious instruction
-Each illegal enemy combatant detainee has a Quibla, a large
green and white sign in his cell which points toward Mecca.
-Each illegal enemy combatant detainee hears Islamic loudspeaker
calls to prayer five times daily.
-Each illegal enemy combatant detainee received a brand new
Muslim prayer cap.
-Each illegal enemy combatant detainee received a brand new
prayer rug
-Each illegal enemy combatant detainee received brand new
Islamic prayer beads. Each illegal enemy combatant detainee
received Islamic holy oil.
-Each illegal enemy combatant had ALL of this done and paid
for him at US taxpayer expense and this is far, far in excess of
requirements delineated by Geneva Convention Cat. III protocols
on the treatment of Prisoners of War. Why is none of this
information coming forth from the mainstream media?
On June 1, 2005 – Seventeen people were killed today when a suicide
bomber reportedly linked to al Qaeda and the Taliban blew himself
up in the Abdul Rub Akhundzadar Mosque in Kandahar province.
And this is a darn good reason to burn dead bodies…..
Stench Prompted U.S. Troops to Burn Corpses
Lt. Nelson took the decision that could jeopardize his service career. “We decided to burn the bodies,” one soldier recounts, “because they were bloated and they stank.”
Now look you terrorists!
You waaaaa and Boo Hoo about your freakin Quran and then you yourselves show no respect for it.
What do you do? You go and blow up your mosques where …
hello……there are Qurans in there….YOUR place of worship and
you could care less about it. No condemnations when THAT happened!
NO outrage at all when one of your own does something against respecting your Quran, your mosques, your so called Religion of Peace.
Give me a break!
Movie Coming Out “Humanizing” Suicide Bombers
Coming to U.S. Film Fests: Movie “Humanizing” Palestinian Suicide Bombers
Posted by Tim Graham on October 22, 2005 – 10:18
And we thought PBS films were bad. David’s Medienkritik reports the German government has subsidized a sympathetic film about Palestinian suicide bombers.”Paradise Now” tells the story of two Palestinian men, Said and Khaled, who are selected as the latest suicide bombers, and debate which way is best to defeat Israeli occupiers. This is supposed to help us by “humanizing” the assassins. Oh, but lucky us! It’s coming to America, to the film festival circuit. It’s been picked up by Warner Independent Pictures. And it’s won an Amnesty International award.
The filmmaker, Hany Abu-Assad, told a German website he wouldn’t condemn suicide bombers: “The suicide attacks are a consequence of oppression, which first has to stop…I am against killing people, and I want that to stop. But I do not condemn the suicide attackers. For me, it is a very human reaction to an extreme situation.” In their marketing materials, Warner Independent is trying to make “clear that the film is one that carries a message of peace,” says spokeswoman LauaKim. “We are working with many organizations to help get the word out that the film is one to begin a dialogue, to ask questions.”
Wild Thing’s Comment….
When I read about this today it made me sick. What a bunch of bunk! As my best friend says ” it feels like my head will explode”. That is exactly how I feel. Such outrage and anger, this is the last thing the world needs is to feel compassion for suicide bombers. Good grief!
Backstreet Time
I just saw this over at Blackfive. It is soooo funny! I just love it!
BSB-I Want It That Way(Google Video link)
Let Our Troops Know We Are Here For Them
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Christmas will be here soon and Soldiers Angels founder Patti Bader, is requesting help. I read about this over at Mudville Gazette.Soldiers Angels is a non-profit organization. As you can see on the right side of my Blog I have a logo and link to her site.
I’m not sure I could ever give the full picture – but let’s just say that this is one organization that meets every need of our military members and their families:
From airplane tickets to hotel bills
clothing and furniture to diapers
holiday presents and cards
letters and carepackages
moral support and round the clock sit-by-your-side in the hospital until your family gets here support
blankets
thermals and socks to providing armored blankets for army vehicles
babysitting
food for military families with employment struggles
computers for the wounded.That’s not even the half of it! This is a powerful organization dedicated to meeting needs – no BS to get in the way.
She also has a “cool stuff designed by Patti” and you know how we girls love to shop, just give us an excuse. Well this time we can shop till we drop and at the same time show our pride in supporting our troops.
What else can you do to help Soldiers’ Angels and Valour-IT?
* Donate to Both if that is possible
* In the work place, how about telling your co-workers about it. I know where I work there are several people that truly support our troops and want to help.
* Donate while also giving to your favorite Charity.
Check out Buy for Charity, which gives a percentage of your online purchases to your favorite charity. You must register at Buy for Charity just once, selecting Soldiers’ Angels under the category “miscellaneous” or entering “angels” in the search box. Then when you purchase online from over 350 affiliated companies (like The Gap, Dell Computers, Overstock.com, and many military equipment sites), a portion of your purchase price is donated to Soldiers’ Angels!
* I listen to a lot of Talk Radio while at work and on the way home. What about calling into one of the shows and telling them about Sodliers Angels.
Driving around I see a lot of stickers on vehicles of supporting our troops. I have them on mine too. That is great, but this is even more action taken then a sticker on a car.
This gets things done, it is walking the walk and talking the talk.
And a Merry Christmas to all and to all a safe night!
Great Moments In Jihadi Gun Safety
What the guy on the right did to piss off the guy in the middle is anyone’s guess.
In Country
To all our troops…..Thank you for all you do! Prayers for you and your loved ones! Stay safe and know how much you mean to all of us, we owe you so much!
Photo by Spc. Mike Pryor
October 19, 2005
Paratroopers from Company A, 1st Battalion, 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment, prepare to board a Chinook helicopter after a five-day mission in Mianashin, Afghanistan.
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Photo by Sgt. David Bill
October 19, 2005
Soldiers from E Troop, 108th Cavalry Regiment, 48th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, remove an engine and transmission from an M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tank at Mahmudiyah, Iraq.
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Photo by Spc. Chris Foster
October 19, 2005
Staff Sgt. Brian Doney, from 3rd Battalion, 156th Infantry Regiment, continues his mission of rooting out insurgents in Amiriya, Iraq, after receiving a minor injury to the face from an improvised explosive device that insurgents detonated near a mosque.
The Interview with Stephen Dupont (embedded journalist)
Jason has transcribed the interview with the embedded journalist, Steven Dupont.
“Stephen says that he does believe that the Airborne unit was burning the corpses of the two Taliban soldiers for hygenic purposes. We can get into rotting corpses later, but for our purposes here, lets keep it simple. The Airborne troops were ordered by their officers in the field to burn the corpses because they had been in the elements for 24 hours and were beginning to smell. Stephen recognizes that this was the intent of the Airborne troops, and it WAS NOT the intent of the Airborne troops to desecrate the bodies. As we’ll see a little later, the corpses were NOT placed deliberately facing West (toward Mecca) and that the corpses were merely burned for hygenic purposes.
We also see that the PsyOps group, in the opinion of Stephen Dupont, who was also on the scene for the later psychological operation, did INTEND to use statements designed to imply that the burning of the bodies was to desecreate them, to humiliate the Taliban soldiers taking refuge in the village. The PsyOps troops are not playing patty-cake here and Dupont realized this. Dupont admits that the PsyOps groups understood that their role was to inflict MENTAL STRESS on the holed up Taliban fighters with the INTENT to provoke them into coming out and fighting the Airborne troops guarding the perimeter. Dupont recognizes that PsyOps is a weapon of war.”
For the complete Update please visit Jason……”So what’s really going on. . . (The Interview with Stephen Dupont)”
Wild Thing comment….
This is not the end I am sure, but IMO it never should have been a “situation” to deal with. Our troops are busting their butts in Afghanistan, Iraq and all over the world. They deserve better then to have to answer for every breath they take, every shot that is fired and every bomb that goes off. We are winning this war, I believe that. Sure it is not going to be over in a few years, and we will loose precious lives. But if we keep letting the media, the lefties run this war from their desks, and from the street corners around the world……the terrorists will win. Those that make something out of nothing, they are aiding the enemy…..bet on it! Funny thing though…..the Terrorists want those aiding them just as dead as they want you and I that support our troops. That should tell us all how stupid the lefties are.
Thanks again Jason for the work you are doing on this.
Get The Agenda Seekers OUT of This War NOW!
The headlines scream out…..
U.S. Troops Burned Taliban Bodies
“Under the Geneva Conventions, soldiers must ensure that the “dead are honorably interred, if possible according to the rites of the religion to which they belonged.”
Furthermore, the rules state that bodies should not be cremated, “except for imperative reasons of hygiene or for motives based on the religion of the deceased.”
If you read the article you will see where it says….”The soldiers who burned the bodies said they did so for hygiene reasons.” The Taliban soldiers had been dead for over 24 hours and were begining to become a concern.
And who the heck is Stephen Dupont?
His portfolio or shall we say what it REALLY is…..his AGENDA…. shows us: Children of the Wall in Palestine – boxers in Cuba – Inside Jihad – The Lions Last Roar in Afghanistan.
Please read what Jason Coleman and Dan Riehl have to say. Jason and Dan did an awesome job of research on this.
Wild Thing comment….
I remember when our soldiers were burned in a destroyed vehicle. Then dragged through the streets, dismembered, disemboweled and strung up on a bridge as trophes.And you can read this too from 2004, where they frenzied crowds dragged the burned, mutilated bodies of four American contractors through the streets of a town west of Baghdad on Wednesday and strung two of them up from a bridge after rebels ambushed their SUVs.
Well??? How soon people forget these horrors! And there was NO media outrage at this, but you can bet there will be about our soldiers buring dead bodies of Taliban. Sheesh!
And how many innocent people were burned to death on Sept.11,2001 because of Osama and the Taliban.
As for me I have had it with these agenda seekers and their attempts at attacking our troops. Have we lost our minds to political correctness? We’re fighting a war. Why would we care what Islamic scum think about desecration of DEAD Taliban, when they behead LIVE people? I guess the video of Muslims sawing the head off a live American civilian wasn’t worse? I have had about e-freakin’-nuff! Get the reporters off the front line. We don’t have to see every single thing that occurs in theatre. Enough. The enemy can burn and behead and dangle and dismember and there’s no outcry. Keep the press away and let our troops fight this war like they know how! It is a fact that the Taliban, when they ran Afghanistan, massacred Afghans and skinned their victims …. alive.
I for one, am very sick and tired of hearing ‘we are better, we don’t do that, we are above that’.
So, go ahead and try to impress the world that WE are ‘above that’ and see where we end up. I can tell you where we end up. A woman’s panties placed on the head of a killer is more horrible than a beheading and is grounds for years in prison!!!!!! How insane is that? Our military are ham-strung, no beheading allowed. We are being sooooo ‘above’ the killers that we will all be dead when they say we are so above the terrorists.
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