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November 08, 2009
ObamaCare Passes 220-215 in the House ~ Just 5 Votes
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ObamaCare Passes 220-215 in the US House of Reps. -- Dems Hold Victory Press Conference
Democrats hold celebratory press conference following their passage of the unpopular-with-the-American-public ObamaCare health care reform bill.
Virtually every major opinion poll currently out shows either a plurality or a majority of the public is opposed to the proposed legislation.
This reality explains why the vote was so close and also is a likely harbinger for Democratic electoral challenges in 2010 as members who voted for the bill are held to account by disgruntled constituents more concerned with jobs than health care.
Only 1 Republican voted for the bill, while 39 Democrats voted against it. The Republican was Anh Joseph Cao of Louisiana's 2nd district.
Speculation is already rampant that Cao will face electoral repercussions from conservatives for his vote.
U.S. Senator Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, released the following statement regarding the passage of a 2,000-page health care bill in the House of Representatives:
“This 2,000-page bill goes in exactly the wrong direction: it means higher premiums, higher taxes, Medicare cuts, more debt & huge new health-care costs for state taxpayers. Instead we should start over and go step by step. Specifically, we could start with small business health care plans that would lower premiums, cover up to 1 million new small business employees, and reduce spending on Medicaid.”
Obama Acknowledged Today That He and Bill Owens Pulled a Health Care Fast One on the Voters in NY-23
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The New York Times is reporting that in his pep talk to the Democrats in Congress this morning, President Obama acknowledged that he and newly elected NY-23 Democratic Congressman Bill Owens have pulled a fast one on the voters in that district.
The Times reported the President's comments about Bill Owens today in the context of the overall pending Health Care bill vote:
The president also singled out Representative Bill Owens, the newly-elected Democrat from a historically Republican district in New York, who was sworn into office just on Friday. Mr. Obama noted that Mr. Owens would support the health care bill even though it might not be popular at home.
“Think about Bill Owens,” Mr. Obama said. “He could have dodged it. But he didn’t. And guess what? Bill is sitting right here."
From the start of his campaign on August 10 until an election eve debate on October 30, Owens adamantly opposed the type of public option that is contained in HR 3962, the Pelosi bill the House is voting on later today.
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GOP Rep. Kevin Brady showing a chart they created to visualize the Pelosi Health Care Bill about to be passed by the House of Representatives.
We developed this chart based on Nancy Pelosi’s new health care plan….The new chart shows more than 90 of these new mandates, commissions and agencies. The true number is well over 100, we simply ran out of space.
In terms of sheer bureaucracy, if the IRS and Medicare had a baby, it would look like this. And the question is how is that going to make our health care more affordable?
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Wild Thing's comment......
Ok let's look at what happened:
1. The bill passed 220 - 215, hardly a screaming mandate.
2. The Senate has to act on it, and they are not going to act until after the first of the year, if they act at all. The best thing for the Senate is to delay it, because once this garbage hits 2010, it is an election year, and NO ONE will want this hung around their neck.
3. This thing CANNOT get through the Senate if, in fact, Lieberman is going to join the Republican filibuster. No Republican, even Snowe and Collins will vote for cloture, so this thing dies in the filibuster in the senate (Probably comes up well short of cloture because Byrd has indicated he would filibuster as well if he can be present to vote). What this means is that there is only, at best, 58 votes for cloture, this thing never gets off the ground in the Senate. Look at history, look at cap and trade, this passed the house by an almost identical margin and has languished in the Senate, and will likely not get out.
4. Reid is in the fight of his life to keep his seat. He really does not want to see this SOB pass. Nancy Pelosi is safe, but Reid is not.
The House is the place where emotion can surge and all sorts of crazy stuff can happen, but the Senate is the "cooling plate" of the legislative process. I think that the Senate will not be able to bust through a bipartisan filibuster. Now the news media will paint this as a great victory, but this is far from over.
TWO big Obama states just threw democrats out on their butts and almost a 3rd with Hoffman almost a win too, everyone will remember that who has to vote for this freaking thing. Keep praying, turn your attention to the Senate and melt their phone lines.
Posted by Wild Thing at November 8, 2009 04:50 AM
Comments
If we can take the house in 2010, Nancy will not be speaker of the house anymore! Yay! Ugly old crone. I demand to see a list of who did and who did not vote for this piece of crap bill. They are so gone in 2010 and 2012. I can't afford anymore taxes and I'm sure most of my friends and family can't either. Now my body is not my own anymore. It belongs to the company store.
You load 16 tons and what'd you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.
St Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store.
Posted by: Lynn at November 8, 2009 06:40 AM
Since Lynn mentioned St. Peter, permit me to say, "Obama and Pelosi, may you rot in Hell for eternity".
Posted by: SSgt Steve, USMC at November 8, 2009 07:13 AM
The death Panels are back, Peelosy's bill creates, at last count, 111 new bureaucracies, more power to the Government. 39 democrats voted against it, and not all were Bluedogs, Dennis Kucinich voted against it.
Now why would a flaming liberal like Kucinich vote against a bill this sweeping. It will give the governemt total control over every aspect of our lives. A Tax burden that will cause the unemployment to rise ever further. This of course is what obama and Peelosy have been after for the last 11 months, they have almost reached their goal.
If you need to purchase any big items, get them now the punitive confiscatory taxes of this bill and the Cap and Trade taxes will force you to forget buying anything but the bare essentials. They have co-opted 1/6 of the economy, that almost 20% of the total free market.
We are in deep shit.
Posted by: Mark at November 8, 2009 11:47 AM
If anyone can spare an hour and a half to examine how your electronic medical records will be used by our esteemed government please view, it will affect all aspects of your life as you knew it, or know it. The Stasi are in charge. Thank you lynn, you don't know how prophetic that is.
Posted by: Jack at November 8, 2009 11:51 AM
The socialists/Marxists want control of every aspect of our lives. Cradle(atually conception) to grave control. Too many Americans support this. They of course are the part of the 50+% that are on government support now.
I think only people who actually pay taxes should be allowed to vote. Along with term limits this would clean out a lot of the socialists.
Let's hope this bill does die in the Senate. The Dems are in a hurry to pass it because they are afraid of a voter backlash in the 2010 elections.
Posted by: TomR at November 8, 2009 12:14 PM
Lynn-- Go over to Roger's C&S site for who voted for/against. The D's who voted "against" it did so with Nancy's blessing; once Cao, Owens and the other NewGuy voted "for" and she had enough votes passage, she released the rest to vote "against" for cover for next year's elections.
As I said over at SondraK's, I'm beginning to smell the biggest swindle in history.
Posted by: Rick at November 8, 2009 01:02 PM
Unfortunately we have some 'New Joisey'transplant retro-Woodstock libs living behind us. The feline 'she-beast' said "I WANT WHAT YOU HAVE..." in reference to our life style. This Obamanutwork said it all. They don't want to EARN what we have earned, they simply "WANT!" What you're seeing now is REPARATIONS and CLASS WARFARE at the expense of hard working conservative Americans.
Posted by: darthcrUSAderworldtour07 at November 8, 2009 05:16 PM
Darth that is exactly what it is.
"What you're seeing now is REPARATIONS and CLASS WARFARE at the expense of hard working conservative Americans."
Posted by: Wild Thing at November 8, 2009 11:06 PM
Mark - Deep sh*t isn't a strong enough a term. From what I am reading in the Australian papers about this Bill your country is in very serious trouble. Health is the least of America's worries....and it's time ALL your politicans were HONEST with the people. So............can you tell me when your citizens are going to hit the streets in protest over the endless lies, the PC spindoctoring and the re-invention of the truth. When did it become a crime to question where America is heading?
Just as a test I am going to watch with facsination how YOUR government, and YOUR Press and YOUR military re-invents that muslim Major who slaughtered 13 of YOUR own citizens. Oh, it WILL be all about how he was a 'troubled' man. How he faced 'percecution' from fellow officers. How he tried to 'leave' the Army and how he recieved 'bad reviews'. Anything to avoid stating the bloody obvious. He murdered 13 of his comrades and USED his religion to justify it !!!!!
So....when will the American people address the Trojan horse that is now evidently within? The Army is just the beginning.....next they will try for the Pentagon, the CIA and the FBI. Unless your people hit the streets America is gone.....seriously. I mean what I say. I saw this crap coming down the pike three or four years ago. It's not going to improve.......it's going to get very very ugly and nasty. If the Europeans keep pandering to the muslim hordes entering that region and allowing Turkey to join Nato and the EU they too are toast. We have our own battle here as well.......want some advise? Stock up on your guns and buy crateloads AMMO. At least you Americans still have them.......for now.
Posted by: Lynette at November 9, 2009 01:34 AM
