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November 14, 2009
Obama Will Send 9-11 Mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and Four Other Gitmo Detainees to NY for Civilian Court
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The Obama Administration will send 9-11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammad and four other Gitmo detainees to New York to face trial in a civilian court.
In the biggest trial for the age of terrorism, the professed 9/11 mastermind and four alleged henchmen will be hauled before a civilian court on American soil, barely a thousand yards from the site of the World Trade Center's twin towers they are accused of destroying.
Attorney General Eric Holder announced the decision Friday to bring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four others detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to trial at a lower Manhattan courthouse.
It's a risky move. Trying the men in civilian court will bar evidence obtained under duress and complicate a case where anything short of slam-dunk convictions will empower President Barack Obama's critics.
Lawyers for the accused will almost certainly try to have charges thrown out based on the rough treatment of the detainees at the hands of U.S. interrogators, including the repeated waterboarding, or simulated drowning, of Mohammed.
"We have a president who doesn't know we're at war," said Debra Burlingame, whose brother, Charles Burlingame, had been the pilot of the hijacked plane that crashed into the Pentagon. She said she was sickened by "the prospect of these barbarians being turned into victims by their attorneys."
Waterboarding
The New York case may also force the court system to confront a host of difficult legal issues surrounding counter-terrorism programs begun after the 2001 attacks, including the harsh interrogation techniques once used on some of the suspects while in CIA custody. The most severe method — waterboarding, or simulated drowning — was used on Mohammed 183 times in 2003, before the practice was banned.
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Wild Thing's comment..........
Madness!!
I remember a member of Al Qaeda saying ‘we will use your system against you’.
Obama is doing just that. How much more evidence do people need this usurper is out to destroy our Republic.
This is going to be a trial of the Bush Administration, the CIA , FBI and our troops too. This will lay our entire intelligence services wide open in discovery.
Fox this morning they said the terrorists can be released on a technicality. Boehner said Americans should fear that is even a possiblity .
I spoke with our nephew that is a firefighter in New York. He lost 11 of his fellow fighters on 9-11 including 2 Chiefs. We knew them too, they came to visit us . He said he and his other firemen are as furious as can be about this like we are.
On our own soil, and will now be tried in a courtroom down the street from the World Trade Center and these terrorists will have civilian court?????? OMG!
In an appearance on Fox News Channel this afternoon, former Mayor Rudy Giuliani said the move was irresponsible.
“It’s not inconceivable that the case could be thrown out,” he said.
Giuliani, who was mayor on 9/11, said he disagrees with Bloomberg.
“These are war criminals. This was an act of war. An act of terror,” he said. “They should be tried in a military tribunal.”
LOOK AT THIS IDIOT!
In a statement, Mayor Bloomberg said he supports the move.
“I support the Obama administration’s decision to prosecute 9/11 terrorists here in New York. It is fitting that 9/11 suspects face justice near the World Trade Center site where so many New Yorkers were murdered,” he said.
One week ago, Dems blocked DeMint Amendment to extend ban on GITMO detainees being brought to U.S. soil .
Demint statement on bringing terrorists into American courtrooms:
DeMint senate.gov"This senseless decision puts more Americans at risk for future terrorist attacks and is completely unnecessary. Americans have already invested hundreds of millions of dollars in Guantanamo Bay where these violent radicals can be detained and safely tried by military commissions away from our communities.
Why would our President send terrorist masterminds away from an island fortress off our shores to trials in American courtrooms that will now become targets for enemy combatants? Further, by trying these terrorists in open courts, the same people that murdered thousands of our countrymen will now have access to highly classified intelligence that could further risk our security. The President’s decision is naive and reckless."
Posted by Wild Thing at November 14, 2009 04:50 AM
Comments
When KLM's 'Operation Holy Tuesday' 9-11-01 sinister attack on America was pulled off, only acts of GOD saved tens of thousands more from being killed. Why? When Atta's ~AA11~ flew into the WTC North Tower at 08:46 a.m., and when ~UF175~ flew into the South Tower at 09:05 a.m.,
DIVINE INTERVENTION prevented the towers from falling within 20-minutes in different directions after impact. Tens of thousands more would have perished in a collapsing building domino affect...
Posted by: darthcrUSAderworldtour07 at November 14, 2009 08:08 AM
Holder states that the trials will be held under "established Rules and Procedures" of our system!!!
Let's forget the fact that they "the Terrorist" were "Water Boarded" for the moment which would be considered coercion under our civilian system and reason for dismissal.
As the defense attorney here is the first question I would ask.
"Khalid Mohammad were you advised of your rights as per Miranda before any questions were ask in regards to the charges against you"?
Khalid Sheikh Mohammad: "NO"
As Defense Attorney turns towards the Judge: "Your honor I request all charges against my client be dismissed as he was not advised of his rights under Miranda" a "long and established rule and procedure" of our court system.
Note: Remember they did not make reading Miranda right's a requirement until just recently.
This will be one of the biggest Cluster F*#ks in this County's history.
Posted by: John 5 (VN69/70) at November 14, 2009 09:25 AM
Guiliani was a mayor, Bloomberg is a blooming idiot.
You can bet the ACLU lawyers are chomping at the bit to represent these terrorists. They'll do everything they can to get them released. Can you imagine these cases being thrown out the first day because they weren't read their Miranda Rights?
Posted by: BobF at November 14, 2009 09:26 AM
There is a very deliberate effort by Democrats to change the system of government in America by destroying what is now in place. They want to change it to a government with no reins on it. A government in total control on all American life. To effect this change these Democrats will make wrong right and right wrong.
This ridiculous show trial is a big step toward changing the relationship between the military structure and comparible civilian ways. Moving the trial to New York and putting it in a civilian court under civilian rules changes drastically the way we will fight wars.
The military has already been changed from a destroy and win machine to a nation building entity which fights it's battles with Congressional and judicial restraints put on it. If these terrorists defendants are not found guilty and executed, it will be a terrible blow to our militar morale. Lives were risked to catch these terrorits. I believe that in the future soldiers will be much less inclined to take prisoners. I fear soldiers will be prosecuted for capturing enemy and then killing them after battlefield interrogation.
Posted by: TomR at November 14, 2009 12:10 PM
If these charges are thrown out, I want to see those five walk down the courthouse steps, without police protection.
Posted by: Marvin at November 14, 2009 12:39 PM
Rove blasted them yesterday for this. Among other things, making the announcement on a Friday with BHO out of town. I agree, it was cowardly.
Posted by: Jim at November 14, 2009 02:34 PM
We are headed back before 9-11. Terrorists will be treated as criminals. They are trying to desperately
forget what we have learned on 9-11.
The basis behind this, to discredit the CIA and destroy National Security. The defense will bring out every little secret we've used in the past 30 years. Nothing will escape their gaze. They will present to the world the United States as our enemy sees us, as obama sees us. This will be a trial of the United States not KSM. They will have the best defense the United States Taxpayer can buy, and will probably last about 4 years.
It will be a bigger joke than Carter.
Posted by: Mark at November 14, 2009 02:36 PM
I agree, I am very concerned what they
will do and that they will go after our
soldiers as the bad guys and the terrorists
as victims of torture. sheesh.
Posted by: Wild Thing at November 15, 2009 12:14 AM
