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October 29, 2009
Joe Lieberman: I'll block vote on Harry Reid's plan
Joe Lieberman: I'll block vote on Harry Reid's plan
Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said Tuesday that he’d back a GOP filibuster of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s health care reform bill.
Lieberman, who caucuses with Democrats and is positioning himself as a fiscal hawk on the issue, said he opposes any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance program — even if it includes a provision allowing states to opt out of the program, as Reid has said the Senate bill will.
"We're trying to do too much at once," Lieberman said. “To put this government-created insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayers, for the premium payers and for the national debt. I don’t think we need it now."
Asked about Lieberman’s threat to filibuster a final vote on the Reid plan, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said: "I haven't seen the report from Sen. Lieberman or why he's saying what he's saying. I think Democrats and Republicans alike will be held accountable by their constituents who want to see health care reform enacted this year.”
Lieberman said that he’d vote against a public option plan “even with an opt-out because it still creates a whole new government entitlement program for which taxpayers will be on the line."
His comments confirmed that Reid is short of the 60 votes needed to advance the bill out of the Senate, even after Reid included the opt-out provision. Several other moderate Democrats expressed skepticism at the proposal as well, but most of the wavering Democratic senators did not go as far as Lieberman Tuesday, saying they were waiting to see the details.
Lieberman did say he's "strongly inclined" to vote to proceed to the debate, but that he’ll ultimately vote to block a floor vote on the bill if it isn’t changed first.
"I've told Sen. Reid that if the bill stays as it is now I will vote against cloture,” he said.
“I can’t see a way in which I could vote for cloture on any bill that contained a creation of a government-operated-run insurance company,” Lieberman added. “It’s just asking for trouble – in the end, the taxpayers are going to pay and probably all people who have health insurance are going to see their premiums go up because there’s going to be cost shifting as there has been for Medicare and Medicaid.”
Reid’s response was restrained.
“I don't have anyone that I have worked harder with, have more respect for in the Senate than Joe Lieberman,” he said Tuesday afternoon. “ As you know, he's my friend. There are a lot of senators, Democrat and Republicans, who don't like part of what's in this bill that we sent over to CBO. We're going to see what the final product is. We're not there yet. Sen. Lieberman will let us get on [to begin debating] the bill, and he'll be involved in the amendment process.”
Lieberman said he “very much” wants to vote for health care reform but that he’s worried about stifling “the economic recovery we’re in” or adding to the federal debt.
“I feel this way about a national, government-created health insurance company – whether it’s a trigger or not,” he said. “My answer is – we’re – we have the opportunity to do some great reforms here. These exchanges that we’re talking about, I think, are going to drive competition and probably bring the cost of health insurance down or at least contain the cost increases for a lot of people. Let’s give that two or three years to see how it works to see how it works before we talk about creating another entitlement that will end up increasing the national debt and putting more of a burden on taxpayers.”
Wild Thing's comment.......
We don’t need it now. We don’t need it ever! We need to get the gov’t out of the healthcare all together.
The bill will increase taxes, enlarge the federal deficit, infringe on states' rights, eliminate individual choice, and collectivize one-seventh of the economy. Those are all good reasons to flush Obamacare down the tubes!
LOL thought you all might have a good laugh at this one...............
Harry Reid Says Republicans are Like the "Girls Who Wouldn't Dance With Him in High School"....
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....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.
Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67
Posted by Wild Thing at October 29, 2009 05:48 AM
Comments
"Girls Who Wouldn't Dance With Him in High School"....
HA! Now wonder he is so FU'ed in his brain. If I was a high school girl, I wouldn't dance with him either.
Oh well, he now has Pelosie...she'll dance with anyone.
Ugly begets ugly.
Posted by: SSgt Steve, USMC at October 29, 2009 09:22 AM
Well, Democrats are like the guys who made 'em do their homework or they'd beat 'em up in junior high! Call it payback.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 29, 2009 10:37 AM
Mind if I lump Lieberman and McCain in the same chamber pot? Everything inside that thunder mug looks, acts and smells the same. Hey Dingy Harry, enhance your 'manhood', slip a spud in the back of your pants, those Democrat girls will dance with you then.
Posted by: Jack at October 29, 2009 11:27 AM
I personally know two physicians who said they will retire early if this healthcare bill passes. We will be short of physicians, care will be rationed, nurses will be even more overworked. The medical situation will become a nightmare if this bill passes.
McCain will support this bill if they call it the McCain Healthcare Bill.
Posted by: TomR at October 29, 2009 12:25 PM
