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August 07, 2009
A Veteran's Repsonse to AARP
Mark was sharing with me about the email he got from AARP and he said I could show it to you and also his response. heh heh Thank you Mark. ~ Wild Thing
This is the email he got from AARP:
From: Barry Jackson, AARP
To: XXXXXXXXX
Sent: Wed, Aug 5, 2009 4:01 pm
Subject: MUST READ: Don't believe them
Dear XXXXXXXX,
If your inbox is anything like mine, you're getting a lot of emails about how SCARY health reform is. From allegations about rationing care to wild reports of government-sponsored euthanasia, the rumors just keep getting crazier.
And I've had enough. Enough of the fear-mongering. Enough of the myths and unfounded rumors. Enough of the interest groups twisting the truth to stop health reform.
I'm fighting back – and I'm asking for your help!
Below I've debunked some of the common myths going around. Will you forward this email to your friends and help get the truth out about reform?
The truth is real reform is at risk because opponents are using scare tactics and slogans to gin up fear and misunderstandings. Don't let that happen.
Sincerely,
Barry Jackson
AARP Online Advocacy Manager
P.S. Let's make sure everyone gets the truth. After you've forwarded the message below, please share these myths and facts on Facebook if you have an account, or post them on other networking sites. If you're active on Twitter, please tweet the truth now.
FACT #1: Medicare will not be ended, and no benefits or services will be cut.
Your services will not be ended, nor will your benefits be cut. AARP's position on this could not be clearer. And we have sent this message loud and clear to Congress. While the current proposals include savings in Medicare by cutting out fraud, abuse, waste, and inefficiency, we're standing up and making sure benefits for Medicare recipients are not only fully protected, but are improved.1
FACT #2: No legislation currently in Congress would mandate the rationing of care. Period.
Our staff has read all of the legislation circulating in Congress and there are no provisions in these bills that would ration care for our members. None. If any ever did, we would vigorously fi ght to stop that legislation.2
FACT #3: There is no provision of any piece of legislation that would promote euthanasia of any kind.
The rumors out there are flat out lies. Right now Medicare does not cover counseling for end-of-life care. The portion of the bill in question would simply provide coverage for optional end-of-life consultations with doctors, so that the patient can be aware of all of the treatment options on the table. It is not mandatory and it has nothing to do with euthanasia.3
FACT #4: We have not endorsed President Obama's plan.
In fact, we haven't endorsed any plan. We are supporting reform of our health care system, something that AARP has pushed for many years. We're working closely with Republican and Democratic members of Congress to lower health care costs and to ensure quality affordable coverage for older Americans – and we want reform legislation passed and signed by the president this year.4
So what is AARP fighting for in health reform?
Stopping insurance companies from charging older Americans unaffordable premiums because of their age.
Ending the practice of excluding people from insurance because of pre-existing conditions.
Holding down health costs and making insurance coverage more affordable for all Americans.
Making prescription drugs more affordable by narrowing the Medicare doughnut hole, bringing generics to market faster, and allowing Medicare to negotiate better drug prices.
Find out more and take action at HealthActionNow.org.
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Here is Mark's response: ( Mark's response in BOLD)
Barry Jackson:
This is a formal letter to inform you we my wife and I ARE not renewing our subscription to AARP because of AARP's misrepresentation of the truth and facts from the House Health Care bill.
FACT #1: Medicare will not be ended, and no benefits or services will be cut.
Your government plans right up front to cut Medicare Benefits by 10%, amounting to $310 Billion dollars, then add another 50 Millions citizens to the Health Care system. So Barry, How will the Benefits remain the same. This is creative accounting at its best.
FACT #2: No legislation currently in Congress would mandate the rationing of care. Period.
Right here Barry, P.29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill- Rationing would result. With the addition of 50 Million new patients and no increase in Doctors, Nurses, etc, ...how would you do it. Page 29 line 9, 5000 dollars per individual 10,000 per family if you have an extended illness guess what that's rationing.
FACT #3: There is no provision of any piece of legislation that would promote euthanasia of any kind.
pg 425 lines 4-12 HC bill-Government mandates Advance Care planning consultations, Senior end of life planning.
Pglines 17-19 Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durabvle powers of attorney ...Mandatory
pg 425 lines 22-25(lines 1-3) Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in how to die.
Pg 427 lines 15-24 Government mandates for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends
Your facts don't quite jive with the REAL FACTS written down in the House of Representatives Bill. Which is what I quoted from.
These are answers to you NON facts about the Health Care bill. I would suggest you read the actual bill before you spread anymore Misinformation.
Mark XXXXXXXXX
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Wild Thing's comment.......
Excellent response and I like putting in his face the page numbers etc.. heh heh He can't come back and say it is all made up when the proof is right there what the Bill says.
....Thank you Mark for sending this to me.
Mark
3rd Mar.Div. 1st Battalion 9th Marine Regiment
1/9 Marines aka The Walking Dead
VN 66-67
Posted by Wild Thing at August 7, 2009 07:50 AM
Comments
Being as I will become eligible for AARP in just a few short years, I plan NOT to take it. It's run by tyrannical buttheads who don't know the first thing about how insurance is suppose to work. And what I saw of the AARP rep leaving that meeting in Dallas gives me more reasoning NOT to enroll with them-ever! I hope that lady loses her job. You don't get testy when someone asks a question that you should be able to answer how she did. She should have been more calm and said, "When I am done, I will answer your question or concern and I will stay for as long as you wish me to. I'm here for you." But no, she had to be an ass and walk out. Bad PR, AARP.
Posted by: Lynn at August 7, 2009 08:18 AM
AARP and other advocacy groups should be liable in court for the harm that they do. How could we make the civil case against the AARP for the mental harm to the children if the "End of life counseling" starts causing Grandparents' suiciding.
The associated suicide movement in Europe is moving from executing the sick to "assisting” the perfectly well who are sad. The Swiss had one gentleman executed this year because his wife was dyeing.
Posted by: Avitar at August 7, 2009 12:43 PM
Good job Mark. I imagine AARP is worried over it's membership cancellations and the lessening of new members. To me AARP is more like a union than an advocacy group.
If you are in it for the insurance, shop around and see if you can find decent rates elsewhere. AAA automobile club also has group insurance and USAA if you are retired military. I don't know how the costs stack up to AARP, but at least you are not helping to back a liberal causes supporting group.
Posted by: TomR at August 7, 2009 01:09 PM
Outstanding Mark. At 50 I took the golden parachute and left, I still had some income and signed up for AARP for 10 years, what a mistake and waste of money. It didn't take long to realize it was a biased and leftist organization, I ended up giving away the fishwrapper because I refused to read it. There are a lot of 'do gooder' organizations that offer 'feel good' solutions that bite you in the ass from the liberty end. They all lobby congress to take away your liberty, my liberty, all our freedoms of choice. How about MAAD, there went your privacy, your are a criminal until proven otherwise and can be harrassed by the law for revenue purposes, yet that repeat drunk still gets in the car and drives, all that legislation has done is criminalize all of society. Same for the smokers, the American Cancer Society has driven it into an underground business. The AMA gets behind those who target obesity, now we get fat taxed to death. Do I need to set any more examples of our incremental brainwashing and loss of freedoms, How about one for the road, the SUV, if it got 100 MPG it would still be the demon vehicle, yet the Commies drive their Volvos, BMW's and Escalades, we rednecks with a pickup are branded as polluters and excessive gas users. F'k'em all!!!
Posted by: Jack at August 7, 2009 09:38 PM
Lynn, I agree so much. That really is
shocking to me how the rerp from ARAP
treated people. A person can tell
from that she probably treats everyone
like that even people she thinks she
likes. YUK!
Posted by: Wild Thing at August 7, 2009 11:56 PM
Avitar, your right, excellent
point. It is not just one life they are
messing with it is all involved as well.
Posted by: Wild Thing at August 8, 2009 12:00 AM
Tom, I don't know the comparisons
either in price. These last few weeks
I bet they are really getting upset at
how many people are canceling with them.
Posted by: Wild Thing at August 8, 2009 12:08 AM
Jack, thank you!
Posted by: Wild Thing at August 8, 2009 12:10 AM
