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July 22, 2009
Are You Willing To Die For Obama's Health Care
Dr. James David Manning says your support for Obama's Health Care will kill you.
Shock: Inside the Healthcare Bill
Following the mad recommendations of Peter Singer made in NYT's Sunday magazine, it pays to take a look at what is actually in the healthcare bill.
It's worse than you can possibly imagine. Somehow, it manages to be Singer on steroids. Who wrote this bill. It has Singer's footprints all over it.
Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments listed below are Fleckman's)
Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benes u get
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!
Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will b issued!
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer
PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under Govt control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in the Exchange
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare!
PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example - Translation 4 illegal aliens
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - U Health care WILL b rationed
-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice
pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monop
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u can make.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC accrdng 2 Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes. (Americans will pay)
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2 ALL Americans finan/pers recs
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty u have, you'll all be paid the same
PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.
PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries
PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs
PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems preventable readmissions.
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.
Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand
pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte. Can u say HC by phone?
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt has a say in how ur life ends
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will b used frequently as patients health deteriorates
PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life
Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?
PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage
Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating, rationing those svcs
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Wild Thing's comment.......
I don't have Twitter and have no idea how it works. I am assuming it is like short notes or sentences. If that isi the case then that is why the shortened words in the notes above about the Health care bill.
I wonder if a person could just go to their Veternarian. I have a wonderful doctor for our dog and cat. They better not mess with these doctors for animals and put our animlas lives in danger, or they better get round the clock security for everyone that signs the death billl from hell. Children, the elderly, the people that have medical conditions that need regular care all these are at the most risk with this Bill.
I can't believe there is so lilttle regard for human life......even from baby killing democrats.
Posted by Wild Thing at July 22, 2009 07:55 AM
Comments
The bulk of this rationing will fall on the elderly. We'll have to revisit the idea that the elderly have, in the words of former Colorado Gov. Dick Lamm, "a duty to die."-D.Morris
At the Hospital my wife works for, they geneally have between 5-7 patients apiece. Adding 50 Million patients nationwide, the increase in patitnts per Nurse would rise, from 5-7 to 8.5 to 12 patients. If she has two 'trainwrecks' they are swamped and can not handle the load effectively.--I asked her, if you have two trainwreck how do you handle it? My wife answered, "We just do, its not easy but you go from one wreck to the other and in between take care of the other 3, somehow, i.e., Pass all meds, do all the charting, take care of codes if they come up."
With no increase in medical staffing how is this going to work. the answer is, it is not going to work and rationing is the only way.
We have the greatest Health Care in the entire World and the "Mackdaddy" wants to screw it up.
The AARP, is a big supporter of the 'mackdaddy', until they fine out the real particulars. Then you will hear a collective scream heard 'round the world'.
AARP will be changed to AAARP- American Association of Arithritic Retired People, will then have a new, Motto, 'do your duty and ...Die'.
Posted by: Mark at July 22, 2009 09:41 AM
going to the vet ain't a bad idea...ain't never heard a vet ask an old cow "where da ya hurt tell me so I'll know what kinda pill to give ya."
Posted by: GUYK at July 22, 2009 10:55 AM
I have to agree with GuyK. I have watched the medical system go into the crapper for years, litigation and incompetence have driven costs out of sight.
The AMA, which most doctors belong to, doesn't enforce it's supposed lofty ideals of competency. I can relate to two medicos who have been moved along by the system to prey on the unsuspecting elsewhere, I have prescribed plumbism for them if located by me.
Once in a while it gets so bad that it surfaces and the incompetents get halted, at least partially , not before irreparable damage is done.
Punishment never fits the egregious crimes, remember it's the 'image' that counts.
Most of us on long term care know that the attending physician always practices defensive medicine, ordering all kinds of tests, referring to other physicians and the slapping on of medications, all to cover their asses in a lawsuit.
Eliminate the incompetent doctors and the litigation and the costs will be affordable for all, take the money management scheme out of the insurance carriers hands and focus on medical care, we pay horrific premiums for some bag of shit bean counter to deny a legitimate claim.
Most of the bottom line costs in any business can be traced to speculation for the easy dollar on the stock market, focus being on the bottom line for the stockholders and not on the fundamental business of providing healthcare.
Stop the illegals and addicts from abusing the emergency rooms of our hospitals, I've been into ER a few times and my co patients have been just what I have described, I paid for my f'kups, we all paid for theirs. Furthermore going to Starbuck's, Rock Concerts, and providing cell phones for all the kids are all costs that could go toward paying for an insurance plan, it's a matter of priorities. Nobody owes me a living, I don't feel I owe anyone else a living, cinch up the belt and quit f'king whining. Thanks Mark, we see the problem and it isn't going to get better.
Posted by: Jack at July 22, 2009 12:17 PM
If I were an M.D. and this debacle passed, I would be looking to open a clinic/hospital in some other country, Belize or Columbia perhaps to cash in on Americans trying to escape this system. I think you'll hear, as Ross Perot said, the giant sucking noise, as doctors leave the U.S. to practice elsewhere.
There's just no end to the attempts at oppression that this junta will come up with.
Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2009 02:51 PM
Big Brother: "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." said C.S. Lewis
Posted by: Anonymous at July 22, 2009 03:04 PM
