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June 18, 2009
Bush Takes Swipes at Obama Policies
President George W. Bush speaks at the Manufacturers & Business Association's 104th annual event in Erie, Pa., Wednesday, June 17, 2009
ERIE, Pa.
Former President George W. Bush fired a salvo at President Obama on Wednesday, asserting his administration's interrogation policies were within the law, declaring the private sector not government will fix the economy and rejecting the nationalization of health care.
"I know it's going to be the private sector that leads this country out of the current economic times we're in," the former president said to applause from members of a local business group. "You can spend your money better than the government can spend your money."
Repeatedly in his hourlong speech and question-and-answer session, Mr. Bush said he would not directly criticize the new president, who has moved to take over financial institutions and several large corporations. Several times, however, he took direct aim at Obama policies as he defended his own during eight years in office.
"Government does not create wealth. The major role for the government is to create an environment where people take risks to expand the job rate in the United States," he said to huge cheers.
Mr. Bush weighed in on some of the most pressing issues of the day: the election in Iran, the closing of the Guantanamo Bay detention center in Cuba, and his administration's interrogation policies of terrorists held there and elsewhere. The former president has not commented on Mr. Obama's decision to ban "enhanced interrogation techniques" such as waterboarding, which the current president has called "off course" and "based on fear."
"The way I decided to address the problem was twofold: One, use every technique and tool within the law to bring terrorists to justice before they strike again," he said, adding that the country needs to stay on offense, not defense. On Guantanamo, which while in office Mr. Bush said he wanted to close, the former president was diplomatic.
"I told you I'm not going to criticize my successor," he said. "I'll just tell you that there are people at Gitmo that will kill American people at a drop of a hat and I don't believe that persuasion isn't going to work. Therapy isn't going to cause terrorists to change their mind."
The Obama administration has started to clear out some of the more than 200 detainees at the facility.
Repeating a mantra from his presidency, he called the current war against terrorism an "ideological conflict," asserting that in the long term, the United States needs to press freedom and democracy in corners across the world.
Mr. Bush did not directly address Mr. Obama's response to the election in Iran, which some critics have called tepid, but he did make clear that the outcome is very much in dispute. For a fifth straight day, as the Obama administration walks a tightrope by issuing little criticism, protesters gathered in Tehran to demand a new election.
"Clearly, there's a level of frustration on the Iranian streets," Mr. Bush said. "It looks like it's not a very fair election."
Mr. Bush returned again and again to the economy, and sought to defend his own actions after the financial meltdown in the waning days of his second term. Mr. Obama repeatedly has said he inherited that mess.
"I am told, 'If you do not move strongly, Mr. President, you will be a president overseeing a depression that will ultimately be greater than the Great Depression,'" Mr. Bush said. "I firmly believe it was necessary to put money in our banks to make sure our financial system did not collapse. I did not want there to be bread lines, to be a great depression."
He said his administration sought to address the "housing bubble" before the system broke down. "We tried to reform" mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, "but couldn't get it through the vested interests on Capitol Hill."
Still, Mr. Bush was optimistic, pressing, as he did as president, free trade, open markets and the free enterprise system. "We'll come out of this better than before," he said to more applause.
But he was less than convinced about Mr. Obama's move to overhaul the health care system.
"There are a lot of ways to remedy the situation without nationalizing health care," Mr. Bush said. "I worry about encouraging the government to replace the private sector when it comes to providing insurance for health care."
Asked by the evening emcee at the 104th annual Manufacturer and Business Association meeting if he finds the new president's policies "socialist," Mr. Bush started then stopped.
"I hear a lot of those words, but it depends on..,"he said, breaking off. He later offered a more diplomatic assessment: "We'll see."
Wednesday's speech to hundreds of high-paying association members "premium" tables at the city's convention center went for $1,500 was just the second post-presidency speech by Mr. Bush on U.S. soil (his two major speeches were both in Canada). He was loose and relaxed, his nose a bright red from nearly a week in Kennebunkport, Maine, where he joined his family in celebration of his father's 85th birthday. Mr. Bush told some of his new set stories: How just a month after leaving office he was picking up his dog Barney's poop off a manicured lawn in his Dallas neighborhood; how he's experienced his first red light in 14 years (he served six years as Texas governor before being elected president).
His Secret Service detail, however, was not relaxed: This was the first event in which audience members did not have to pass through metal detectors. Outside, a tiny group of protesters and supporters about 10 people on each side faced off on opposite curbs. One man held a sign that said, "President Bush, thank you for saving all the babies." On the other side: "Arrest Bush."
But the former president got a big cheer when he walked out on stage even bigger than Joe Paterno, the legendary Penn State coach who was also on hand for the event. The former president noted that America has a funny political system: "You're it, then you're not it instantly."
He lamented the politics of personal destruction that he said is rampant in Washington, noting, though, that it has always been thus. Recalling how a treasury secretary and a vice president once fought a duel, he joked: "At least when my vice president shot somebody, it was an accident."
During a question-and-answer session, Mr. Bush recounted tough decisions he made in office. Still steely, the former president said he left Washington with the same moral resolve. "When I look in the mirror, I say, 'He did not sell his soul for short-term politics.'"
Asked about the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, when he first learned of the terrorist attacks while in a classroom full of children in Florida, Mr. Bush said he simply found an inner resolve.
"I realized that we were in crisis, and the first thing I do in any crisis is calm. If you're president, and all of a sudden the whole world is watching you, and you get up and do something precipitously, frighten children, storm out, that kind of movement will cascade through a society," he said.
In answer to a question about what he learned as president, Mr. Bush smiled broadly. "There's so much stuff coming at you," he said to laughter. But turning serious, he said, perhaps to his successor: "You don't know what's going to come
Wild Thing's comment........
Bush kept us safe and believes in American exceptionalism. He understood our political position in the world. He loves America and our mililtary. I am not taking away the things he did that ticked me off. But it sure feels good to hear him say the things he said here.
I am glad Cheney and now Bush are speaking up . The GOP has to stand firm AGAINST Obama and this going to the middle is BS There can be NO COMPROMISE ON THIS. The GOP must get back to principle.
Marxist Obama's assault on freedom and business and jobs and our way of life has got to end!
Posted by Wild Thing at June 18, 2009 04:55 AM
Comments
No matter what Bush did, the troops love him. I feel sorry for those men and women who'll be retiring in the next couple of years as they'll have Obama's signature on their retirement certificates. I'm not happy with Clinton's but I would rather have his than Obama's.
Posted by: BobF at June 18, 2009 07:33 AM
Hey BobF, just scratch out Clinton and initial it and write in Ronald Reagan.
Yeah, Bush wants to take the high road when it comes to the Soutpiel, but even that is difficult when it comes to protocol. Bush wants to stay above obama but there is no reason he can't say what he feels, Clinton sure did.
Posted by: Mark at June 18, 2009 08:26 AM
Forgive me; I'm rusty on procedures. George W served two consecutive terms, thereby preventing him to run for a third consecutive term.
Is it possible for him to run for President in the next election? (But, he is probably too intelligent to do that.)
Posted by: Steve Gaston, USMC at June 18, 2009 08:27 AM
To Steve Gaston, no it is not possible. Some states have term limits for their Governors which allow additional non consective terms but not the constitution's amendment.
As a Grduate of both Yale and Harvard's MBA program George W. Bush is more intelligent than any president of the twentieth. Together with being a Jet Jockey, pilots really do have a different temperment than most people, his high class "nerd" was just more than the Animal House media and Democrats could take.
Ronald Reagan had developed a wonderful understanding of the mechanisms of Government and Society but both of the George Bushes functioned on amazing subtale levels. Bush 41 played for the long payout and I frequently wanted to take him by the ears and bang his head when he did something amazing followed by something stupid. Bush 43 did not do a lot of stupid things. His priorities would not have been my priorities and he guided the ship of state like a fighter piolet but if he had fired a few more poeple he still might not have gotten improved results.
The congress currenly has fewer people from the top one percent of the population than there would be if they were randomly selected. Instead the congress falls in to a narrow bell curve around a center slightly above average. Two men, like Bush and Cheney who are at or above the level of the average engineer are going to be lonely in Washington. It may not be true that the average founding father from the first congress is superior to the best of today's congress. Bush and Cheney, I think would have been welcomed companiy aaaaaddddddaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Posted by: Avitar at June 18, 2009 01:33 PM
When you come to think about responsibilities that the POTUS job entails, only one task emerges, to Protect and Serve, GWB did that for 8 years. I disagreed on his fiscal and domestic policies but no fault on the only reason he was hired. That Ubangi in charge is there to destroy 233 years of national success.
I'll give him the successes he's due:
Demoralized our heroic troops with drastic cuts to our military budget.
Threatened to force our injured heroes to pay their own healthcare expenses – since rescinded, but don’t count on that lasting.
Compromised our national security by closing Gitmo with no plan for where the released terrorists will go.
Mandated his kill-as-many-unborn-infants-as-possible agenda by overturning the Mexico City Policy.
Rewarded Hamas terrorists with $900 million to replenish their killing machine against Israel.
All-but bankrupted our economy and left future generations with mountains of debt.
Proposed a “domestic security force” – complete with uniforms – that reeks of the Third Reich’s Brown Shirts.
Launched his Acorn cronies to foist a “Pledge to Obama” – not to America – on the public.
Unleashed an army of incompetents to deal with our economic and financial problems.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities,
can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire
Posted by: Jack at June 18, 2009 02:09 PM
BobF., I can understand that.
One important thing Bob, Clinton's sig being
on your retirement certificates. It really
and truly does not take away at all from
the wonderful thing you did. And that will
be appreciated into forever. HUGE thank you
Bob.
Posted by: Wild Thing at June 18, 2009 11:27 PM
Mark, I agree, I realize he really doesn't
want to.
He said one time long ago that he
does not want to attack the office of the
President. That is honorable and fine. But
in this case with Obama it is like nothing
we have ever had before so imo it is a
whole new ballgame, this is about the
survival of our country.
Bush did good and one can tell he was
wishing he could let it rip.
Posted by: Wild Thing at June 18, 2009 11:32 PM
Steve Gaston, USMC, I am not sure at all.
I used to think if they skip one term then
they can but honeslty I would only be
guessing.
Posted by: Wild Thing at June 18, 2009 11:35 PM
Avitar, thank you so much for the
information. I was not sure at all
what the answer was.
I agree about the two Bush's and
Cheney too.
Posted by: Wild Thing at June 18, 2009 11:49 PM
Jack, your right, to protect and to
serve, whew Obama has already failed
that miserably and the worst thing
of all is he has no intention of
protecting or serving. His is to
rule, dictate, tyrany and destroy.
Posted by: Wild Thing at June 18, 2009 11:54 PM
Twenty-second to the Constitution
25th Amendment to the Constitution (1967)
Both spell out term limits and ascension to the Presidency
Posted by: Jack at June 19, 2009 01:01 AM