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May 04, 2008
Iraqi Officials Show Proof Of Iranian Support For Militias and Iran Says No More Talks
A woman walks past an anti-American mural on a wall of the former U.S. embassy in central Tehran May 1, 2008.
A senior Iranian official said on Saturday Tehran saw no need for more talks with the United States about Iraqi security until what he described as U.S. attacks on Iraqis stopped, Iran's Fars News Agency reported.
* Iraqi officials show proof of Iranian support for militias
* U.S. military official says some Iranian arms made in 2008
Iraq presents proof of Iranian meddling-official
BAGHDAD,
May 2
An Iraqi delegation in Iran has confronted Iranian security officials with evidence that Tehran is providing support for Shi'ite militias battling Iraqi government forces, an Iraqi official said on Friday.
"They presented a list of names, training camps and cells linked to Iran," Haidar al-Ibadi, a member of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's Dawa party, told Reuters.
"The Iranians did not confess or admit anything. They claim they are not intervening in Iraq and they feel they are being unfairly blamed for everything going on Iraq," he said of the talks, which took place on Thursday.
Ibadi said he had been in contact with the delegation.
Washington has long accused Tehran of backing Shi'ite militias, particularly fiery cleric Moqtada al-Sadr's Mehdi Army, providing them with weapons, funding and training. It has displayed some of the weapons, including rockets and mortars.
The Shi'ite-led Iraqi government, however, has generally been more restrained in its criticism of its Shi'ite majority neighbour, which denies the charges and says it supports the government.
Maliki launched a crackdown on the Mehdi Army in the southern oil hub of Basra in late March, provoking a furious response by the militia in southern Iraq and Baghdad, including relentless volleys of Iranian-made rockets against the Green Zone government and diplomatic compound in the capital.
The U.S. military said this week that "very, very significant" amounts of Iranian weaponry had been found in Basra and Baghdad during the offensive. Some of those arms were made in 2008, a senior U.S. military official said on Friday.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said there had been a "sea change" in Baghdad's view of Iranian activity in Iraq since the discovery of the weapons.
"Basra changed it for the Iraqis. I'm not sure they believed it before. But they went to Basra and saw it first hand," he said.
Maliki's ruling United Iraqi Alliance, a coalition of Shi'ite Islamist parties, sent the delegation to Tehran to tell Iranian officials to stop backing the militias.
The delegation includes the deputy speaker of parliament, Khalid al-Attiya, Ali al-Adeeb, a lawmaker from Dawa, and Hadi al-Amari, a powerful figure in the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, one of the biggest Shi'ite parties in Iraq.
And this is latest as of this posting........
TEHRAN (Reuters)
A senior Iranian official said on Saturday Tehran saw no need for more talks with the United States about Iraqi security until what he described as U.S. attacks on Iraqis stopped, Iran's Fars News Agency reported.
Washington accuses Tehran of funding, training and equipping militias in Iraq, a charge Iran denies. Tehran blames the presence of U.S. troops for violence and instability in Iraq.
"Should the Americans' attacks against civilians and the defenseless Iraqi people come to an end, Iran will consider their request for the fourth round of negotiations," Fars quoted the official as saying.
It said the official was a senior member of the negotiating team with U.S. officials but did not give his name.
"Under the current conditions, with the Americans' massive attacks on the Iraqi people in various cities, no need is felt for holding negotiations with that country about Iraq's security," the official said.
Wild Thing's comment.......
"If US savage attacks against the Iraqi people are stopped, we will examine the US request for a fourth round of talks," the unnamed official said"
Is the savage official too scared to be named? Friggin cowards and thugs.
They must be complaining about our attacks against Mookie’s Army. TUFF he is owned by Iran.
The nerve of them. Asking us to stop attacks on their own Iranian-backed criminal gangs, then they would consider re-opening talks with us. Hell, smart Americans don't want to bother talking to Iran in the first place. Only the failures like the nitwits in the Iraq Study Group, and the Hamas-supported Presidential candidate, the Obamessiah, think that talking to the Iranians is going to accomplish anything.
Posted by Wild Thing at May 4, 2008 12:48 AM
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No difference between German made TORPEDOS in WW I and WW II (U-Boats)... and Iranian made IED's... NO DIFFERENCE in reference to acts of war and just cause responses! OBLITERATE the Iraniac military and ayatollah assaholas!!
ISRAEL>>>>> iran
>>>>> syriaous
- May the B-52 Peacemaker be with you...
Posted by: drstrangeloveb52isok at May 4, 2008 12:49 AM
We all agree what must be done but with the eunuch congress, a lame duck in the whitehouse all they have to do is wait until November. Deja Vu, unlike the 444 days from November 4, 1979 to January 20, 1981, this country doesn't have a president in the wings to take on the Iranians. All they have to do is look and listen to our undermining media and the three stooges that are running for the office and they know they can get away with anything.
Posted by: Jack at May 4, 2008 01:54 AM
Iran needs to be hit. We need to take out part of their military to show them that they need to back off. We could obliterate their air force and navy in short ordr. Take out their only operating refinery. Foment disorder by arming their revoltionary elements like the Kurds.
Talks with the ayatollahs go nowhere, except to give them some sort of creditbility. Iran has serious unrest and financial problems. These weaknesses need to be exploited. It seems we are doing nothing. We even gave them back some of their terrorists we captured. WTF??
Posted by: TomR at May 4, 2008 10:16 AM
Yep, all we really need to do is destroy that one refinery. Then they can't get where they're going and the military will have nothing.
Do they really think we're going to give up without a fight? Please, don't stare while I laugh so hard I wet my pants.
And they want to talk? I don't think so, Scooter.
Posted by: Lynn at May 4, 2008 11:49 AM
Both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton will (actually they already have) declare defeat and withdraw all troops from Iraq. That meets Iranian demand number one. After that, Obama will unconditionally meet with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to find out why they hate us and do all that he can to turn the United States into a more Islamic friendly and Sharia loving country.
Hillary Clinton won't meet directly with Ahmadinejad but will send Bill Clinton as her emissary to do the same thing. Woe is us. The country is in deep trouble.
Posted by: Les at May 4, 2008 03:52 PM
drstrangeloveb52isok, sending now.....yessss
"May the B-52 Peacemaker be with you"
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 4, 2008 07:50 PM
Jack, ......"this country doesn't have a president in the wings to take on the Iranians"....I don't think so either.
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 4, 2008 07:53 PM
Tom, I just keep wondering if because of the weekned axis of evil thing, if for some weird reason the DOD and Bush etc. feel they have to make the case to the public or something. I am probably wrong, but I just can't figure out why they keep letting Iran do such horrible things to our guys in this war and we have so much proof too.
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 4, 2008 07:57 PM
Lynn, LOL yep they want to yakity yaky endlessly.
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 4, 2008 07:59 PM
Les, exactly, she is talking big about Iran now, but talk is cheap and she has no authority to do anything about what she is saying. She is getting Iran made at her though. hahaha
Posted by: Wild Thing at May 4, 2008 08:01 PM
PS Wild Thing: How come the Iraniacs don't yell "Death To Russia" or "Death to Red China"?
Just curious. - Vlad The Impaler 2008 & Ho Chi Kong 2008
Posted by: drstrangeloveb52isok at May 5, 2008 02:01 AM
