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October 11, 2007
An Israeli Strike on Syria Kindles Debate (Cheney vs.Rice) in the U.S.
A familiar administration divide: Vice President Dick Cheney says Israeli intelligence was credible, while Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice questions whether there was a real threat.
An Israeli Strike on Syria Kindles Debate in the U.S.
NYT ....for complete article
WASHINGTON
A sharp debate is under way in the Bush administration about the significance of the Israeli intelligence that led to last month’s Israeli strike inside Syria, according to current and former American government officials.
At issue is whether intelligence that Israel presented months ago to the White House — to support claims that Syria had begun early work on what could become a nuclear weapons program with help from North Korea — was conclusive enough to justify military action by Israel and a possible rethinking of American policy toward the two nations.
The debate has fractured along now-familiar fault lines, with Vice President Dick Cheney and conservative hawks in the administration portraying the Israeli intelligence as credible and arguing that it should cause the United States to reconsider its diplomatic overtures to Syria and North Korea.
By contrast, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her allies within the administration have said they do not believe that the intelligence presented so far merits any change in the American diplomatic approach.
“Some people think that it means that the sky is falling,” a senior administration official said. “Others say that they’re not convinced that the real intelligence poses a threat.”
Several current and former officials, as well as outside experts, spoke on the condition of anonymity because the intelligence surrounding the Israeli strike remains highly classified.
It has long been known that North Korean scientists have aided Damascus in developing sophisticated ballistic missile technology, and there appears to be little debate that North Koreans frequently visited a site in the Syrian desert that Israeli jets attacked Sept. 6. Where officials disagree is whether the accumulated evidence points to a Syrian nuclear program that poses a significant threat to the Middle East.
Mr. Cheney and his allies have expressed unease at the decision last week by President Bush and Ms. Rice to proceed with an agreement to supply North Korea with economic aid in return for the North’s disabling its nuclear reactor. Those officials argued that the Israeli intelligence demonstrates that North Korea cannot be trusted. They also argue that the United States should be prepared to scuttle the agreement unless North Korea admits to its dealing with the Syrians.
Since North Korea detonated its nuclear device, Ms. Rice has prodded Mr. Bush toward a more diplomatic approach with North Korea, through talks that also include Japan, Russia, South Korea and China.
That deal angered conservatives who believed that the Bush administration had made diplomacy toward North Korea too high a priority, at the expense of efforts to combat the spread of illicit weapons in the Middle East.
“Opposing the Israeli strike to protect the six-party talks would be a breathtaking repudiation of the administration’s own national security strategy,” said John R. Bolton, former United States ambassador to the United Nations.
Wild Thing's comment........
Cheney is right, Rice is wrong. Bush should fire her pronto - her policy predilections are far too dangerous to US and world security, she is another Powell or worse.
It is past time that Condi should shut up and accept N. Korea for what it is.
Condi opposed the plan over the summer, and still insists on going on the diplomatic dance even when N. Korea is caught outsourcing their nuclear program. Now that the incontrovertible evidence was secured as she or Bush insisted, she should stop ignoring the reality. N. Korea crossed the red line: proliferating nuclear weapons/materials, the very thing she claims to stop by her diplomatic approach.
Posted by Wild Thing at October 11, 2007 12:47 AM
Comments
Like my patriot VP Vader will tell you, "Don't mess with the IAF 69th fighter squadron... nor with God's chosen people!" I wonder about Condi Rice Balogna now....
Posted by: darthcrUSAderworldtour07 at October 11, 2007 04:29 AM
What happened to Condi? I used to look at her as a role model for my own daughters--strong, intelligent, kind. But now I wonder if she's not just a power hungry witch like a couple of other ladies we all know.
N Korea told her just what she wanted to hear and she believed them. Had it been a man, I think things would have been different.
These powerful women are ruining it for the girls who will become of age in the future who might want to run for a political office.
N. Korea, Syria, Iran--they are all threats to us and we need to do something about them--now.
Does anyone remember EMBARGOS?
Posted by: Lynn at October 11, 2007 07:51 AM
Lynn, I wonder too what happened to Condi. She started out so good and now she seems to have gone by the wayside.
Posted by: BobF at October 11, 2007 09:20 AM
I too had high hopes for Condi, but I found that she was mentored by the same mentor as Madeleine Korbel Albright, with the same indoctrination background, she has the same loyalties as that of her predecessor Colin Powell, it's to support the U.N. ideals first, not just those of the United States. Israel deems it's national security sacred at any cost, something we have lost here. 2009 can't get here fast enough.
Posted by: Jack at October 11, 2007 01:37 PM
I wondered when we would jump on Israel again instead of supporting her. Syria and N Korea are butt buddies. I thought N Korea was one of the "axis of evil"? Come on Mr Bush, make up your mind. The N Koreans have proven for 57 years that they cannot be trusted.
If the Stupid Party happens to win the White House again, I hope there is a very prominent place for John Bolton. He seems to be a light in the darkness.
Posted by: TomR at October 11, 2007 01:54 PM
Darth, I was excited about Condi at the beginning.But I didn't know how she felt about Israel and she has made too many comments that shocked and ticked me off about it. I don't hate her I am just done with her. haha
I like your quote.
Posted by: Wild Thing at October 12, 2007 12:20 AM
Lynn, oh yesss embargos. I remember them. Thanks Lynn.
Posted by: Wild Thing at October 12, 2007 12:22 AM
Bob I agree, she has changed.
Posted by: Wild Thing at October 12, 2007 12:25 AM
Jack thanks, I had forgotten about that.
Posted by: Wild Thing at October 12, 2007 12:29 AM
Tom oh how I would love for Bolton to be in there someplace too.
Posted by: Wild Thing at October 12, 2007 12:30 AM
