Theodore's World

On FOX last week he said his team's location was compromised by locals, including children, and that they chose not to... take them out. Guess what? They were ratted out and his team was later killed, and he was the lone survivor. I loved our airlift missions to Oceana NAS to fly those Neptune warriors to all parts of the globe. They're the best!

No more micromanaging the war.
Whoever thought you could run a war with rules
has got to be out of his mind!
Benjamin Martin from the movie The Patriot would be
a super great leader over there because he wouldn't
pussyfoot around and listen to "rules." He'd just do the job and do whatever it took to get the job done. Isn't that a soldiers job anyway?

Politicians lost Vietnam and politicians will loose Iraq if they don't back off. In just about every war we fought, politics have needlessly gotten soldiers killed. When will the American People realise that politicians are responsible for the needless deaths of their sons and daughters. Give the military an objective and look the other way until they get it done.

It is not just inept, self serving politicians interferring in military missions. it is also the media. The MSM wants to be the determining factor in everything. They egotistically believe they are the most intelligent and knowledgable about everything. And, sadly, they have a wide and instant platform to present their views.

In WWII, the media was mostly supportive and their efforts sometimes took days to get presented. Now the media is very biased based on the political paerty in power, and they can present a slanted news story almost instantly.

I look forward to reading this book. One correction. I think they had 3 KIA on this mission. That would not make it the costliest SEAL mission. In Grenada they had 4 drowned and in Panama they lost 5 or 6 assaulting Noriegas airplane hanger.

A lot has happened to cause events like this and we can't honor men like Marcus Luttrell and his team mates enough. The rediculous rules of engagement are maddening, been there, done that. Don't put our finest young men and women in harms way then expect them to ask for permission to protect themselves from assault. There is a good read by Richard Marcinco "Rogue Warrior" that details the infighting behind his Seal Team and his susequent incarceration by his political handlers. Then there is the memorable events ot the greatest bungler of all and his ill fated and life costly mistakes made on April 25, 1980. The notion that U.S. troops are guests of the embattled country is happy horseshit, where those guests are treated with about the same respect as Idi Amin's unfortunate guests. Two things don't belong on any battlefield, one is a politician the other is a journalist both should be shot as traitors, let the generals plan the strategy and the troops carry it out to the best of their ability. We wouldn't be still dealing with Mookie if the military wasn't being micromanaged.

The ROE are maddening. I'm glad people are speaking out about it. I think this is why the approval ratings for Congress are soooooo low. They've completely misread what the public wants.

Jack, there is one more asshole that should not be allowed on the battlefield. That is lawyers(JAG). Even though they are not physically in the firefight, they should not be allowed to Monday morning quarterback.

BTW; the Haditha Marine case is falling apart for the prosecution. Pray for the success of those brave Marines.

That has been my bitch all along. The bogus Rules of Engagement. I read where one soldier at a check-point took a bucket of rocks to throw at civilians or the enemy depending on their plea just so he wouldn't be prosecuted for doing his job.

The Haditha incident, wasn't that the one Murtha jumped on and accused the Marines of all out murder. Where is his press conference saying he was sorry that he accused these Marines of Murder. So obviously Murtha doesn't know what the hell he is talking about either, ... as if we didn't already know that.

If a civilian is in the area, they must be treated as the enemy, in a firefight you can't pick and choose who the enemy is. If they are observing then they too should be considered as the enemy because they obviously know what and where it is going to happen.

Our troops are trying to fight a war with New York city Police Rules of Engagement. How many troops have been killed or wounded because of these stupid ROEs.

Supposedly, the ROEs were supposed to have changed with the new Surge, obviously they haven't changed that much.

The reason the demos have anything to carp about is we are fighting a PC war, their kind of war and that won't work.

Did Union Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman have JAGS? Did Patton, Rommel, Julius Caesar, Genghis Khan or Lord Wellington? JAGS = Kinder & Gentler, eh? JAGS = Mother-In-Laws & Monday Morning QB's!

Darth thank you for sharing about that.

Lynn, I agree that is a soldiers job and darn those that mess with them and force them to hold back. It puts them in tremendous danger.

Bob....."When will the American People realise that politicians are responsible for the needless deaths of their sons and daughters.".....that is soooo true.

Tom, thank you, I want to read this book too. I had never heard of the book, till just recently.

Jack thank you so much, and thank you for the link too.

Beth I agree, people in general just want the military to go and do what they need to do. It is more the media and the politicians that keep telling john q public the war is not going well, and they it is taking too long. sheesh

Thanks Beth.

Tom your right the Haditha Marine case is showing the liars up that slanders our Marines, and I wish Murtha would get taken down for his past comments and lies about the Marines too.

I agree about praying for them too.

Mark they were supposed to change with the surge, but from what I have heard they have only changed slightly.

Darth....AMEN!

"JAGS = Mother-In-Laws & Monday Morning QB's!"