Theodore's World

"Doing what has to be done."

Go on, just say the T-word.

It's suddenly unpatriotic and un-American to be opposed to torture? Come on now! Senators like John McCain are true Republicans, in the vein of Lincoln and Eisenhower. They're not defending terrorists from unreasonable behaviour: they're defending /you/ from it! If the state has the right to torture, and convict people outside a court of law, then ordinary Americans can be jailed. The definition of 'terrorist'is awfully malleable, you know.

Does this mean that if American Soldiers and Marines are captured they won't be brutally tortured, mutilated, and murdered? Does this mean they won't have to do DNA testing to determine the identity of American POW's. Does this mean that their bodies will no longer hang from bridges and be set on fire?

Many Republicans deserve to loose their Senate seats.

Andriët Psarisch why is your email ?????????

infidels.shiver@gmail.com

That email address you have says all I need to know about you!

You are wrong in your comment! Read what BobF has said and you will get an idea of why you are wrong.

The definition of "terrorist" is only malleable to those who align themselves with terrorist causes, and have neither the courage nor character to admit it, and instead must jode themselves in relativism. Cowards. Tell me, Psarich, what is your "definition" of terrorist, or are you too malleable to have one?

...."hide" themselves, not "jode" themselves.

This is what I've come to expect from the Manchurian Senator from Arizona, we'll have more like him because that's what Ken Mehlman seeks as candidates instead of true conservatives that don't embrace the Communist stances of the Democrat party.

You know, maybe a couple years of Democrats running congress again is what America needs. Most Americans have forgotten what congress was like all during the 70's, 80's, and into the mid 90's. High taxes, unemployment, high interest rates, and the constant scandals which make the present ones look like child's play. I could weather a couple years of Democrats in order to get some strong Reagan Conservatives back in the congress.

A few Broken fingers to save a few thousand Lives,
good trade Yes

My e-mail has nothing to do with my political views. It comes from a line of rather visionary and religious poetry by Beck: 'infidels shiver in the stench of belief.' You don't address my argument at all, but attempt rather to use minutiæ to cover the fact that I make sense.

Your attempts to undermine me are crude at best. My background? I am an observant Jewish individual who, although I have spent many years in England, spent my formative years in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. I'm proudly American, through and through. I only recently left my beloved homeland because, heck, America is terrorised. I miss my motherland incredibly, but people are so paranoid about attacks by Islamist fascist boogeymen, that they are actually succumbing to terrorism, just like the Islamicists would want, and letting fear take the place of reasoned debate.

I am a true Republican. I have considered running myself for the state senate, but I did not have the money; maybe some time. I have fought for various Republicans' campaigns to congress, because I believe many Democrats are as deluded as the Neo-Cons. But I supported only reasonable Republicans who respect our constitution. I am a Republican of the days of yore where men such as Eisenhower, Lincoln, and Theodore Roosevelt had a sense of justice, and innovative ideas, and expressed them intelligently, rather than the current administration's scare tactics. I am a staunch paleoconservative, if you will. I don't support terrorism. My own aunt was killed by a suicide bomber in Israel, and I had close, close friends in 9/11 killed. I am not malleable in the least. (In fact, I only say that the word terrorist is abstract because it is; imagine one day, you're protesting because some ridiculous congress is hiking your taxes and dissolving the moral fibre of this nation: you could be seen as éndangering the state', and voila, out comes the ability to torture you. Indeed, I have very, very formed opinions of things. I have been into politics since the age of 9 or 10, and on many things, I have never changed my position since then. And one of those things is that I love the freedoms that we have as American citizens. Freedom of expression, freedom of religion, privacy, freedom to go about our lives without fear. The terrorists hate our freedoms. When they attacked us on 9/11, it was because their fanatic, mutated and warped take on their religion *does not tolerate these freedoms.* Now, we're talking about torturing people. We're talking about spitting on our constitution. These people are despicable scumbags, and they deserve to rot in jail. But if we spit on our consitution, not only are we demolishing our right to be moral guardians to the world; we're not only putting our brave troops in danger (if they're trapped, do you think they won't be tortured if it comes out that we are torturing them?); but we're also turning our back on the humanity for which this country used to stand. Barbarity breeds barbarity. Let's take the high road as a nation instead of stooping to these people's level and beyond.

(I hope y'all dismiss your prejudices and see what I have to say, instead of cocooning yourself in self-deluion by not relating to my opinion on the matter. Us old school Republicans say what we believe, and react to what others believe, rather than try to character assasinate so that one view predominates. Call it old-fashioned ethics and civility.)

It has nothing to do with their warped since of their Religion, it has to do with power, our Humanity,taking the High Road, Tolerance, Political
Correctness gives these Islamic Dung Beetles a sense
of our Weakness and inspires them to Attack Us,
with the knowledge that we will wring our hands and threaten to bring them to Justice, We should be Dipping our Missiles, Bombs and Bullets in Pig Fat
assuring them a trip to Islamic Hell. And about the Torture, well sometimes you just have to play in the Mud, we have a hell of a lot to learn about
Torture, what we do now is not as bad as a College Hazing.

You know what, I actually agree with you; that's one of the few times that anyone has ever persuaded me. These people endanger our society, and come over with the explicit intent to destroy our people. They don't deserve to experience human compassion. If there is no deterrent to their fanaticism, what will stop them from tooling around with us?

Human rights are wonderful for our law-abiding citizens. But through their actions, and their relentless desire to destroy America and all that it stands for, they have chosen to be sub-human.

It’s not about allowing our interrogators to torture prisoners at all. Americans wouldn’t allow torture and neither would our President. What the President was wanting, in a nutshell, was to allow our interrogators to use harsher forms of interrogation. Stuff like heat, cold, sleep deprivation and humiliation. Humiliation or degrading a prisoner is prohibited. You may torture an Islamic Terrorist and not get any information out of him but if you stand him naked in front of three women who point to his genitals and laugh, he may “spill the beans”. To some of these men, humiliation in this manor is worse than any torture. Remember, they believe women are lower than dogs and for a woman to humiliate them like this, it’s worse than death.

Our RINO leaders in the senate are worried American Servicemen may be mistreated in future wars if we allow this form of harsher punishment. I ask you, when, in what war, were American POW’s ever treated humanly? The closest humane treatment our POW’s got was from the Germans in WWII; the Japanese savagely tortured and murdered our POW’s. Our POW’s were brutally tortured and murdered during the Korean War and in Vietnam. While we provided food, water, and medical treatment to Iraqi POW’s during Desert Strom, Allied POW’s were beaten. Just who do these RINO’s expect us to be at war with and receive humane treatment? We all know who were going to be at war with in the future and we know how they don’t take POW’s.

You're right! What sort of rationale would value the 'feelings' of an anti-US extremist operative over thousands of decent American lives?